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Oct 26th, 2008 | By HAL | Category: This and That

What do you think of Pink’s admission of being a part time lesbian?

Gooner:
I don’t think she actually used the term “part time lesbian” I think she just said she had experimented in the past but is straight – which is fair enough.
In general though I think people’s sexuality can be fluid and difficult to “pigeon hole”, the main thing is that they are true to themselves.
If someone did say they were a “part time lesbian” I’d roll my eyes.

Annie Aura:
She just said that she had experimented with women but she has always made it clear that she is straight and loved men. I hate the way the media twist words into controversial headlines.

Slayer:
The fact that this particular publication thinks it’s to use the phrase ‘part-time lesbian’ is the real problem here if you ask me. Pink seems genuine enough in her openness towards her sexuality, it’s the likes of Katy Perry and tATu that should be tied together and thrown off a cliff, with their gay-for-pay marketing lesploitation.

HAL:
But surely it’s enough to have the word Lesbian in the press at all? Is it true that, for us, there’s no such thing as bad publicity?

Gooner:
I see your point, but having people be gay-for-a-day gives credence to the idea that people choose their sexuality and that lesbians are just with women till they find a good man.

Slayer:
There is bad publicity, there’s the publicity that leads to negative stereotypes, misconceptions and dozens of fools singing “I kissed a girl” in my face on a night out.

HAL:
If you have stereotypes negative or otherwise, at least people acknowledge you exist and then those of the same ilk can seek you out. Nothing means people thinking they are the only gay in the world and that loneliness can well up. Excuse the pun….

Gooner:
I think people do know we exist – I don’t think that’s the problem it once was. Now society needs to know what sexuality is, because a lot of people don’t seem to understand it, they see it as very black and white, which it isn’t, it’s a rainbow.

Click Here:
Hang on – invisibility might not be an issue for the out-and-about laser beams like us, but what about the teenager in a conservative Irish home, or in a rural town? – or in some hell-hole where, perish the thought, homosexuality is a crime against nature, punishable by anything up to the death penalty? Where Enlightenment may be heresy (be that Ireland or wherever), but Coca-Cola and celebrity somehow manage to permeate..

Annie Aura:
That’s true Click. When I was younger it really did feel like I might be the only 13 year old lesbian in Ireland. It was only after I left school that I realised two of my best mates had also been struggling with the same closet door. If I had heard any celebrity say they were a part-time lesbian it would have helped my issues with self-acceptance a little bit.

HAL:
I was the same. I really thought I was the only person in the world who was in anguish over my sexuality. (Ironic when there was someone in the same house doing the same.) I remember when the Communards and Boy George where on Top of the Pops, people were calling them all sorts of poofter names but I was entranced – actual homos!!!
Can you imagine if Beth Jordache was on the telly now? Back in the day, she was the only lesbian on TV (in Brookside). She was a lesbian who helped her mother kill her abusive father. If that was now, some people would be giving out (as they did then) that she ‘had to be abused’ and ‘another queer killer’. But she was a young, good-looking lesbian on telly, who kissed a girl!!! Lord I’ll never forget it…..literally life-changing stuff.
I don’t know what it’s like for youngster (and oldsters) now. Society has definitely changed when there is ‘the gay one’ in a boy band. I still think it’s better to have ‘part-time lesbian’ or ‘Lezney Lohan’ jokes in the papers and mags, than nothing.

Gooner:
I didn’t mean to imply that lesbians are ok in society nowadays, merely that our existence is real, people know we exist – they didn’t before.
I agree that publicity is good but I don’t like it to be too negative. I remember being young and seeing someone outed, for example, and being scared because they were forced out, I’d have preferred them to stay in than be outed in that fashion, scared me to death. whereas if someone comes out of their own accord it’s great.
I think most young people know they aren’t alone, what they need is to see their sexuality in a positive light, as something to be proud of, not something to hide.

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  • I think most young people know know they aren’t alone, what they need is to see their sexuality in a positive light, as something to be proud of, not something to hide.

    Its obvious from the above comment that you’re not from a rural background. I agree with Annie Aura and Hal in respects that when you are from a rural background, when you are somewhere that you’ve never seen a gay person, no access to the likes of GCN or Diva magazine it makes a huge difference. Obviously not so much an issue now with the internet and Belong to but spare a thought for the teenager who has never seen or heard of anything gay.

    How on earth do they know they’re not alone? I thought I was only gay in the village. A small village in rural ireland. The closest I got to a lesbian was Zoe on Emmerdale and she never told me I wasn’t alone. If the only newspapers that come into the family household are those rags like the Indo and the Sunday World and this is the only exposure you get to lesbians/gay people so be it. I think the more it’s mentioned, the more people will get used to it. Not to drag poor Lindsey Lohan into the argument again, but look at how her coverage started out? Salacious, very much so but it was coverage and now we have her in Ok talking about her gal pal.

    So someone talking about even being a ‘part-time’ lesbian is a start and we need to start somewhere.

    Helena said:
  • Welcome, Helena!

    Oh my God, I remember Zoe on Emmerdale – I grew up in Dublin, but even that was a must-see for me. And I never watched Emmerdale at any other time..

    Yeah, I still think that some lesbian visibility is better than none. Having said that, I certainly think there’s a case to be made – especially by those of us who are out and already comfortable with ourselves – for speaking up to challenge negative stereotypes, marketing gimmickery for the lads (I’m looking at you, Katy Perry), and “part-time” lesbians.

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