Comments on: D’LAF: The launch night and those strippers http://www.gaelick.com/2009/10/dlaf-the-launch-night-and-those-strippers/4595/ an irish lesbian ezine Sat, 13 Mar 2010 14:27:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Laura http://www.gaelick.com/2009/10/dlaf-the-launch-night-and-those-strippers/4595/comment-page-1/#comment-4113 Laura Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:41:42 +0000 http://www.gaelick.com/?p=4595#comment-4113 <cite><strong>mad4it69 & Helen - totally agreed, its time that there was something for the many women who do want this, rather than denying all women a choice because of the political ideology of a few.</strong> </cite> mad4it69 & Helen – totally agreed, its time that there was something for the many women who do want this, rather than denying all women a choice because of the political ideology of a few.

]]> By: click here http://www.gaelick.com/2009/10/dlaf-the-launch-night-and-those-strippers/4595/comment-page-1/#comment-2519 click here Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:39:58 +0000 http://www.gaelick.com/?p=4595#comment-2519 Hey mad4it & Helen - I've left a comment over on the poll about this - http://www.gaelick.com/2009/10/strippers-and-lapdancers-at-dlaf/. Feel free to let me know what you think. (I'm doing a lot of pondering about this!) Hey mad4it & Helen – I’ve left a comment over on the poll about this – http://www.gaelick.com/2009/10/strippers-and-lapdancers-at-dlaf/. Feel free to let me know what you think. (I’m doing a lot of pondering about this!)

]]> By: Helen http://www.gaelick.com/2009/10/dlaf-the-launch-night-and-those-strippers/4595/comment-page-1/#comment-2459 Helen Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:57:09 +0000 http://www.gaelick.com/?p=4595#comment-2459 I am in FULLY supporting naughty and nice and its about bloody time this city WOKE UP and got with it!!! The rest of the world has moved on and embraced this idea, it puts Ireland to shame that a regular night loke this isn't on the agenda. I am disgusted i missed it-thought alaf was in november, the advertising and date changes wewre poorly managed, but thumbs up for the best themed nite Dublin has ever seen! I am in FULLY supporting naughty and nice and its about bloody time this city WOKE UP and got with it!!! The rest of the world has moved on and embraced this idea, it puts Ireland to shame that a regular night loke this isn’t on the agenda. I am disgusted i missed it-thought alaf was in november, the advertising and date changes wewre poorly managed, but thumbs up for the best themed nite Dublin has ever seen!

]]> By: mad4it69 http://www.gaelick.com/2009/10/dlaf-the-launch-night-and-those-strippers/4595/comment-page-1/#comment-2350 mad4it69 Sat, 31 Oct 2009 12:14:54 +0000 http://www.gaelick.com/?p=4595#comment-2350 I think yous are all nuts, here's a club night that's offering, by the the sounds of it, a different night for lesbians. I was at the 'Naughty and Nice' night at the Ocean Bar - it was fantastic - I didn't see or feel like anyone was being short changed. I'll be going to Melody Bar tonight with bells on, I suggest that ye take my lead and follow me down too. And then tomorrow, maybe ye can pass ye're judgements. There are still people out there that would suggest that a lesbian club full stop, is wrong, so we've come a long way and I'd hate to think that my fellow lesbians in Ireland would judge me in a similar manner. I should be allowed to have a lap dance tonight, and I have no doubt that I will have several if my night in the Ocean Bar was anything to go by! I think yous are all nuts, here’s a club night that’s offering, by the the sounds of it, a different night for lesbians. I was at the ‘Naughty and Nice’ night at the Ocean Bar – it was fantastic – I didn’t see or feel like anyone was being short changed. I’ll be going to Melody Bar tonight with bells on, I suggest that ye take my lead and follow me down too. And then tomorrow, maybe ye can pass ye’re judgements. There are still people out there that would suggest that a lesbian club full stop, is wrong, so we’ve come a long way and I’d hate to think that my fellow lesbians in Ireland would judge me in a similar manner. I should be allowed to have a lap dance tonight, and I have no doubt that I will have several if my night in the Ocean Bar was anything to go by!

]]> By: Shauna http://www.gaelick.com/2009/10/dlaf-the-launch-night-and-those-strippers/4595/comment-page-1/#comment-2344 Shauna Fri, 30 Oct 2009 22:32:40 +0000 http://www.gaelick.com/?p=4595#comment-2344 I went to a club night in San Francisco a few years ago which had a few female erotic dancers doing their thing on the pool tables - the local crowd loved it, judging by the many dollar bills being thrust upon them, but I and my Irish mates were put off by it to be honest -there was nothing like that at home at the time and it just seemed such a bizarre and unexpected spectacle in a gay bar - maybe we were/are too prudish, but I don't thing there is anything positive to be taken from putting women up on a platform purely to enable other people, be it straight men or gay women, to ogle them. I went to a club night in San Francisco a few years ago which had a few female erotic dancers doing their thing on the pool tables – the local crowd loved it, judging by the many dollar bills being thrust upon them, but I and my Irish mates were put off by it to be honest -there was nothing like that at home at the time and it just seemed such a bizarre and unexpected spectacle in a gay bar – maybe we were/are too prudish, but I don’t thing there is anything positive to be taken from putting women up on a platform purely to enable other people, be it straight men or gay women, to ogle them.

]]> By: HAL http://www.gaelick.com/2009/10/dlaf-the-launch-night-and-those-strippers/4595/comment-page-1/#comment-2341 HAL Fri, 30 Oct 2009 12:03:52 +0000 http://www.gaelick.com/?p=4595#comment-2341 It rankles with me. I know woman are as sexual as men abut I don't think that lap-dancing and stripping are things we want to take from stright culture. It's not about being PC or a hairy-arsed feminist - stripping and lap-dancing exploit. I know the woman here is all on for it and I'm not in anyway saying that d'Laf or the organisers are willfully exploiting her. But this type of performance is demeaning to woman - not just the woman performing but all women. The fact that it's women watching makes it all the more wrong. We should know better. How can we expect men to understand our aversion to the over-sexualising of women if we have events like this? How can men understand that we're more than sex objects if we objectify ourselves? Sorry but it's wrong. It rankles with me.

I know woman are as sexual as men abut I don’t think that lap-dancing and stripping are things we want to take from stright culture.

It’s not about being PC or a hairy-arsed feminist – stripping and lap-dancing exploit. I know the woman here is all on for it and I’m not in anyway saying that d’Laf or the organisers are willfully exploiting her. But this type of performance is demeaning to woman – not just the woman performing but all women.

The fact that it’s women watching makes it all the more wrong. We should know better.

How can we expect men to understand our aversion to the over-sexualising of women if we have events like this?

How can men understand that we’re more than sex objects if we objectify ourselves?

Sorry but it’s wrong.

]]> By: gooner http://www.gaelick.com/2009/10/dlaf-the-launch-night-and-those-strippers/4595/comment-page-1/#comment-2340 gooner Fri, 30 Oct 2009 12:00:38 +0000 http://www.gaelick.com/?p=4595#comment-2340 I can understand that people are into all sorts of things and more power to them. Personally I think strippers are degrading but we live in an open society (we do don't we?) so I respect people's freedom to strip if that's what they want to do. I can understand that people are into all sorts of things and more power to them. Personally I think strippers are degrading but we live in an open society (we do don’t we?) so I respect people’s freedom to strip if that’s what they want to do.

]]> By: Slayer http://www.gaelick.com/2009/10/dlaf-the-launch-night-and-those-strippers/4595/comment-page-1/#comment-2339 Slayer Fri, 30 Oct 2009 11:57:01 +0000 http://www.gaelick.com/?p=4595#comment-2339 it's not aping the heterosexual paradigm? No, it's just reducing women to nothing but objects to gaze upon. Nice. And they want to host events outside Dublin so they change the name to Dublin Lesbian Arts Festival...? Right. it’s not aping the heterosexual paradigm? No, it’s just reducing women to nothing but objects to gaze upon. Nice.

And they want to host events outside Dublin so they change the name to Dublin Lesbian Arts Festival…? Right.

]]> By: Shelly http://www.gaelick.com/2009/10/dlaf-the-launch-night-and-those-strippers/4595/comment-page-1/#comment-2338 Shelly Fri, 30 Oct 2009 11:46:49 +0000 http://www.gaelick.com/?p=4595#comment-2338 Great to hear from the girls themselves, click, thanks for that...I still say no on the strippers and lap dancers front...I don't see the fun in it. Great to hear from the girls themselves, click, thanks for that…I still say no on the strippers and lap dancers front…I don’t see the fun in it.

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