Comments on: Law recognising transsexuals to go before Dáil

By: Lynda Sheridan

Lynda Sheridan — Sat, 29 May 2010 10:18:23 +0000

I AM SUPPRISED THAT THE GOVERMENT IS STILL USING TRANSSEXUAL AS A DISCRIPTION OF PEOPLE BORN WITH GENDER IDENTITY DISORDER ,AND WHO HAVE GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS OF DIAGNOSIS OF HORMONE REPLACEMENT AND GENDER REASIGNMENT SURGERY ,WHICH IS NOT REVERSABLE, AND SIMPLY LIVE
THEIR LIVES AS MALE OR FEMALE POST-OP. THE TERM TRANXXEXUAL WAS DROPPED
OVER 20 YEARS AGO BY THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANISATION AND EVEN THE IRISH MEDICAL JOURNAL IN 2005 AND THE MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS ON GID IN IRELAND.
THE FOY CASE WAS WON IN THE HIGH COURT FOR PEOPLE BORN WITH GID/GD ,AS LYDIA STOOD UP IN COURT AND SAID SHE WAS NOT TS. BUT SIMPLY A WOMAN.
THE JUDGE MADE THE ORDER ON GID/GD. ALL PEOPLE ARE ENTITLED TO LIVE THEIR
LIVES WITHOUT FEAR AND DISCRIMINATION WHETHER TG/TS GID/DG LGB OR HETRO.
THE GOVERMENT IS WRONG IS USING THE TRANSSEXUAL TERM TO DESCRIBE US WHO
EMBRACED OUR GID AND WENT ON TO SUCCESSFUL TRANSISION TO THE VIBRENT MEN AND WOMEN WE ARE TODAY. SOME WHO DESCRIBE AS TRANS DO NOT WANT MEDICAL
INTERFENCTION AND PREFER TO LIVE IN BETWEEN AS TRANS AND YES THEY ARE ENTITLED TO LIVE FREELY LEGALLY IN THEIR IDENTITY, BUT TO US WHO BELIEVE THAT GENDER EQUALITY IS FOR US TO BE SIMPLY A MALE OR A FEMALE THE TS TERM
TO US IS DEGORITY AS WE WOULD NEVER DESCRIBE OURSELVES AS SUCH.
I FULY SUPPORT DIVERSITY AND THOSE THAT WANT TS OR TG ATTACHED TO THEMSELVES, AND I WILL STAND WITH THEM FOR THEIR RIGHTS ,AND I WOULD HOPE THAT THESE ORGANISATIONS WOULD SUPPORT OUR RIGHTS TO BE SIMPLY A MALE OR FEMALE.
LOVE TO ALL MY LGBT/GID/ FRIENDS AND THOSE WHO ARE SEEKING FRIENDS.

Lynda.

By: HAL

HAL — Sun, 06 Dec 2009 13:41:19 +0000

I was chatting to a mate of mine and he was saying that one of the arguments against this is that known terrorists will change their genders so that they will be undetectable by the FBI and whoever else chases terrorists.

I mean really??!!?

This is an argument? Please, next it’ll be “no plastic surgery for anyone, oh and we’re reconsidering hair dye”

Acknowledging a person’s true sexuality is about more that what they look like, it’s about who they are. It’s a matter of valuing the person.

The government very happily treats trans people equally when it comes to taking their taxes.

By: Ian

Ian — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 13:55:04 +0000

There certainly is more to this than meets the eye

http://debates.oireachtas.ie/DDebate.aspx?F=DAL20091124.xml&Node=H11&Page=48

388. Deputy Joe Costello asked the Minister for Social and Family Affairs Information Zoom if, in view of the commitment in the revised programme for Government to legislate for transgender citizens right for their acquired gender to be recognised by the State, she now plans to discontinue its appeal in a case (details supplied) to the Supreme Court; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [42886/09]

Minister for Social and Family Affairs In the revised Programme the Government accepts the need to provide legal recognition for transsexuals in their acquired gender. I will be moving to progress this matter in the immediate future. The means by which legal recognition will be effected may include legislation and in any event will require careful consideration and consultation.

By: orange

orange — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 11:53:12 +0000

According to Human Rights in Ireland blog, TENI contacted Dr. Foy’s (the individual at the centre of the case which the government were appealing to the Supreme Court) solicitors and they have heard nothing about the appeal being dropped! I wonder where the Examiner got its info. Presumably, the case would be dropped if there was legislation in the pipeline though because in his decision, the judge pointed out that the government was remiss in not having provided legislation on the issue so far. And the government even appealing the decision in the first place was moronic because if it was then appealed to the European Court of Human Rights, the court would in all likelihood find in Dr. Foy’s favour.

There’s more to this story than meets the eye.

Link to HRI blog post on this issue too: http://humanrightsinireland.wordpress.com/2009/11/30/gender-recognition-legislation-in-the-new-year/

By: Gooner

Gooner — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 08:47:23 +0000

Thanks for the comments CanuckJacq and Hangar Queen, I have read a few things that FF have apparently said and it does lead me to agree with you. I have to admit that that is something that never even crossed my mind and seem to be a low dig and an extremly important piece of legislation

By: Hangar Queen

Hangar Queen — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 08:39:33 +0000

Yet they’ll allow you to change the gender marker on a passport with a “Right you are.No bother at all.”
At least that was my experience at the Irish embassy here. I got the impression that locating the Club Goldgrains for the tea was a bit higher up on their action list.

CanuckJacq is spot on though. FF seem to think that being trans is some kind of elaborate dole scam.

By: CanuckJacq

CanuckJacq — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:37:56 +0000

That argument about “just anyone can/will do it!” annoys the heck outa me. Seriously? First, one gender should not have more entitlements under social welfare than the other. Second, who cares? Will people randomly deciding to be legally the opposite gender have serious ramifications for people other than themselves? Unlikely.