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I’d be interested to see how this one pans out, for me I think we all suffer the same media brainwashing and although I think, as a lesbian, I have a widder image of what is beautiful, I think that when it comes to myself I fall into the same trap as many women, gay and straight
I hope that we do, but like Gooner said, we see the same images in the media as everyone else.
You don’t think that, after fighting for the right to be who we are, that includes how we look?
I think lesbians are more sensible about body image; their own and how they view others.
Although maybe that just means I’m old
I think Lesbians — by definition women who find women sexually attractive — are far more likely to have a wider definition of attractive.
I know that personally I have no problem with women who have small breasts, or are a bit heavy or don’t wear makeup. As a result, I wouldn’t generally judge myself for the same.
I think there are different ideals to which lesbians aspire, but I think the pressures are less, at least in my experience.
I think we have a slightly different idea of beauty than the average heterosexual male and do judge others and ourselves by a different standard of beauty. I think we also, for obvious reasons, aren’t trying to keep thin to impress men – we’re probably less preoccupied with heterosexual female views on us also if we’re surrounded by lesbian friends.
But then if you look at the whole stereotype of the overweight lesbian – a lot of people fight hard to stay away from that stereotype and end up developing serious body issues. Most of the lesbians I know would have issues with their body, most WOMEN I know do – but I do find it’s slightly more pronounced (and it has to be said, more acted upon) by the straight girls I know. To the point where it is shocking me how many girls in Ireland are bordering on full blown eating disorders.
I think we have a better CHANCE of being happier with our bodies, and some of us (older lesbians?) can be blissfully outside the rulebook but interesting comments in terms of the same pressures/same media. What about ‘our’ media? Sure, media is there to sell itself and usually a lot more besides, but is lesbian/lgbt media any different or diverse in terms of repesentations? Shouldn’t we expect or demand it to be?
I watched one (so correct me if I’m wrong, aficionados!) episode of the L-Word- I felt in terms of casting/body type/diversity I may as well have been watching Desperate Housewives or Sex in the City! *outraged* Honestly, I don’t NEED any more airbrushed, bland ‘ladies’ in my livingroom- I expect a series in which the main characters are lesbians to have a least attempted a different aesthetic!!!
You have some good points there Optical Mouse. I think the gay media talk the talk in terms of having a wider view of what is beautiful but when you look closer they don’t exactly walk the walk.
I have read a few studies that say that straight men don’t find overly skinny women attractive either so who exactly is being pondered to?
I think that the issue with the L Word, as with all mass media, is not even who was making it (it was mostly women and lesbians) but who was PAYING for it, and the sought after demographic in America – adult males.
The L Word could never hope to represent all facets of lesbian bodies, and they could certainly never hope to do it within its awkward position need to fall in a palatable midway point between representation and what would appeal purely economically.
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