The Gay Case Against Gay Marriage
I read a lot of blogs. Too many are the ones that reinforce exactly what I believe already. Some are about subjects I don’t know much about. Others take a different viewpoint from my own. Some of those bloggers have even managed to change my stubborn mind on issues over the years. They’re my favourites.
Suzy Byrne (of Maman Poulet and Anti-Room) is one of them.
This week, she has laid out her reasons behind her objection to the campaign for gay marriage. I’ll spoil the ending right now: this is not one of the times she’s changed my mind. Still, I’d like to address her objections.
Marriage has not been a friend to women throughout the years. From Suzy’s Irish perspective:
Marriage has previously barred women from employment, excluded us from claiming social welfare, participation in FAS schemes, a reason for being paid less, and a host of other rights and entitlements. Those who did not marry were castigated as a drain on the state, as not behaving appropriately, they also do not get the same rights to protection in cases of domestic violence. Marriage was considered permission for rape until the early 90′s.
Maman Poulet
For all the reasons she’s listed and more, marriage has historically sucked. But then, so have so many things. Employment has sucked. A hundred years ago, working conditions were awful. My mining ancestors died of lung disease, leaving their wives and children in debt to the company that killed their husbands and fathers through greed, neglect and apathy. Universities were, for the bulk of history, the realm of only privileged and religious men. Add democracy for the same reasons. None of these are reasons to relegate higher education, democracy or employment to history. Nor is the history of marriage enough to resign marriage to the scrap heap.
It wasn’t voting, education or employment or marriage that excluded and subjugated women. Women were already excluded, subjugated and considered to be the possessions of men. Marriage, education and employment followed the whims of those who have power in society. As the world changes, these change. In Ireland, the control for so many years has belonged to the church. Threats of excommunication have been commonplace political maneuvers. Years and years of indoctrination (sometimes called “education”) meant that those threats were not laughed off as any rational person would today.
There are many “friendly-fire” arguments against same-sex marriage. (I blogged about some of them in January) Why legally restrict your affections to only one person? Why participate in a largely economic institution when our economic system is so clearly there to reward the wealthy and punish the poor? If you disagree with the dominant culture, don’t participate in it.
Sadly these queer arguments rely on the concept of a supporting community that can compensate for the lack of equality in people’s lives. Unforunately, those communities are usually urban.
When the city first started issuing marriage licences to same-sex couples, San Francisco-based Annalee Newitz wrote,
I understand, from a utilitarian point of view, why same-sex couples want to have state-recognized relationships. Hospital visitation rights, inheritance, co-ownership of property, and parenting are all absurdly difficult for unmarried couples. But marriage isn’t merely about kids and taxes.
Annalee Newitz
But it is. I see above a list of reasons I got married in the first place. You can add, “becaue I’m in love and we both wanted to.” to that list as well, but otherwise, it’s pretty exhaustive.
Suzy runs down the potential implications of the Civil Partnership, etc legislation:
The impact of civil partnership and cohabitation legislation inferring rights and responsibilities on relationships is untested and far-reaching. The Department of Social Protection will soon be able to infer that people in same sex relationships living together are co-habiting, sharing incomes and responsible financially for each other whether they want to be or not. Many people may not want that to happen (including because they don’t want to be open to financial abuse or control by a partner) but that’s one legacy of ‘equality’.
That has nothing to do with equality (with or without the quotes). I detest that the government can decide whether or not I am in a valid relationship. I’ve made that decision myself. I stood up, made a declaration to my wife under the law, signed the papers and posed for the silly photos. If I had not made that decision, I would not expect to be held to any kind of obligation. Also, the Civil Partnership, etc Bill is a far cry from equality. If anything, it has codified inequality and made discrimination against gay and lesbian people acceptable in the law. Marriage equality would have gained for us more and cost us less of our liberty.
I can’t imagine anyone in the gay community believes that marriage is the only way to be a family. I’m not interested in enforcing a particular way of being in a relationship. I wish that kinship did not have to be defined by the state. I wish that we who are “unmarried” were not at an economic disadvantage. I wish marriage could apply to many different family structures. I wish, I wish, I wish.
For the moment, what we have is this: we have a gay person in the hospital who must rely on the kindness of strangers in order to have those daily visits from her partner and children. We have partners are left grieving, homeless, broke, and without access to the children they raised. We have children who can lose two parents through a single death. There is one very quick way to fix that, and it is to grant marriage equality to all couples. A quick fix may not satisfy some, but it can help.
Will lesbians and gay men who choose not to enter into civil partnerships be seen as ‘loose’, a drain on the state, ‘behaving inappropriately’? Will Paddy Power give me odds on this? I bet not because I predict within 3 years there will be articles and debates appearing about lesbians and gay men who are ‘not the marrying kind’, refusing to commit, castigating them as refuseniks. Civil Partnerships will be seen as status symbols and indicators of success. And the campaign for marriage will continue because the quest for ‘normality’ dressed up as equality will persist.
Maman Poulet
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But the rest of us could build our own kinds of relationships, ones that suited us, without feeling we’d somehow failed to live up to the expectations of our community. What expectations were there? All we had, in the words of fantasy writer Jacqueline Carey, was the commandment “Love as thou wilt.”
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Now that queers can get married, I’m left here with a diminishing group of sexual outcasts and minorities, dreaming about a world where kinship isn’t codified by the state. Although we love each other in profoundly human ways, pundits compare us to people who want to marry their pets or cars. We’re the perverse remainder, the sexually unassimilated. But we soldier on; we blunder toward romantic fulfillment, and we find it or we don’t. In true love, there are no laws. And there are none to break.
Annalee Newitz
I didn’t marry because I felt pressure to. Nor should anyone. When I came out to my family, I discarded expectation as a reason for doing anything. I highly recommend it.
I married for the same reason I dress the way I dress and speak the way I speak — because it is who I am, and what I choose. I have every right to chose that. Others should have every right to ignore it, but that should be their choice. At the moment, those arguing against same-sex marriage are effectively turning down something nobody has ever offered them.
We need equality. Then we can all work together to make that equality more meaningful. But until we’re there, what’s the point?
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Some good points here!
As far as I can see, many of the objections raised by maman poulet seem to refer to the financial etc arrangements that arise from the cohabitation aspect of the bill. However, outside of the Irish Farmers Association, I never saw any meaningful attempt at debate on this issue (even some letters to the Times might have started something).
I can’t help but feel that the vitriol that has been directed at marriage equality might have been better directed at the cohabitation aspect of the bill instead.
I have bookmarked this page. I absolutely loved your article. You really tackled all the arguments really well.
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We agree that there is a case to fight against marriage as a bourgeois institution that has enslaved women.
But marriage has also driven the reduction of the number of men leaving single women to raise their kids without any support.
The problems that are described are not related to marriage itself, but to it’s use by the bourgeoisie. Let’s not amalgamate (I think it is the point of your blog)
When it comes to it, all citizens should have two options to get a recognition of their relationship as contributing to the economic and social welfare of the country:
- Civil Marriage for couples of any gender who intend to raise kids; hard to break for extra protection, including stong family rights.
- Civil Partnership/Union for couples who do not intend to raise kids or want to break-up more easily, and less family rights but strong children protection.
And those who reject the “institutionalization of their love” can just cohabitate! (Section 15 is a different matter altogether, and has its merits)
But it is not fair to deny the benefits of a married family to children and adults who want it, just because you feel it cramps a “gay” style.
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Years ago, I met a gay man whose partner committed suicide. Their home was in the dead partner’s sole name. The parents of the deceased, who this man had called mom and dad for decades, swooped in and changed the locks on the house, refusing to let the surviving partner in to get his own clothing. When I hear these lofty arguments about the philosophy of marriage, I picture this man wandering through the shops to buy a change of clothes in the midst of his unspeakable grief. We live in this world, right here, right now, and denying people legal protections does nothing to change that, it just increases human misery.
Arguing against same sex marriage because you don’t believe in / approve of/ wish to participate in marriage is like arguing against safe, legal abortion because you personally don’t believe in/ approve of/ wish to participate in abortion. No one is forcing anyone into either! It’s about the freedom to live our lives as we see fit. Don’t get married. Don’t go to weddings. Your choice. But limiting other people’s legal options does nothing to advance the cause of freedom. And isn’t that what the queer movement has historically been about? Fighting for the freedom to chose who we love and how we build our families?
This bit about civil partnerships making single queers less socially acceptable is just silly. I’m single. I like being single. Having spent years in an unrecognized lesbian partnership, I am unlikely to ever get married, legally or otherwise, again. But being an adult, I really don’t give a hoot what mainstream society thinks of me. As an adult, being true to myself means a lot more to me than whether or not the papers approve of how I live my life.
I respect the points against civil marriage and partnership for same sex couples but to say that couples who choose not to marry are going to be thought of as loose or less than is just silly. Those days are long gone.
I am single and well in my 30′s and I have never felt that way.
Great article
Oh Kitty, what an awful story. That’s the kind of thing that has me in favour of the piecemeal reforms we get. At least it is something for those who can’t wait until we have what we really want.
… the whole “don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good.” etc
Gooner, I sometimes wonder if it’s a cultural thing for me that I never felt that kind of pressure. I mean, my parents lived together before they married, so it really wasn’t a big deal. But maybe it’s an individual thing. A lot of people do genuinely seem to feel a lot of pressure to marry.
Mark, you’re right. There really wasn’t much discussion of that and I think a lot of people are going to be caught unaware. The whole cohabitation part of the bill is nutty anyway.
IPA, There really is a class issue here that does need to be kept separate from the debate, mostly because it needs to be its own discussion. Marriage and family structures have always varied wildly along class lines, and that’s unlikely to be any different for gay people.
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