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From Gaelick Contributor Kristine

“Auntie Kris? Which one of JLS d’ye like mostest?”

I glanced up from my Robert Harris crime novel (I know I’m a big geek!), just in time to witness the four members of JLS proclaiming their love to a (at the risk of quoting Peter Andre) ‘mysterious girl.’

“Oh…er…Marvin.” I replied, vaguely remembering the name being mentioned when the band had been on the X Factor. Truth be told, I hadn’t a notion which one Marvin was.

“Me too.” My niece grinned, before changing to another chart station as Nicole Sherzinger pounced onto the screen.

Disappointed at Ms.Sherzinger’s disappearance, I continued to read. However, later that night, when my babysitting duties had ended, I found myself thinking back on our whole JLS moment. Maybe it was the realisation that I would never share a genuine mutual ‘crush’ on a member of a boyband with my niece, or the fact that I felt that I couldn’t tell her the truth – that it was in fact the gorgeous Nicole that I found irresistible, yet whichever the reason, I found myself feeling quite sad over the whole thing.

Her ignorance with regard to my sexuality was soon to be short lived, her new-found knowledge coming to my attention over the course of a dinner in my brother’s house.

“My Mammy and Daddy said you like girls,” my niece said calmly, before scooping some potato into her mouth. Almost choking on my turnip, I cast an inquisitive glance at her parents.

“She was asking why you didn’t have a boyfriend,” her Dad explained, “it’s no big deal.”

Her Mam nodded assent, “Yeah Kris, don’t worry about it.”

“Was (insert name of my ex girlfriend) your girlfriend?” My niece continued, undeterred by the mound of food in her mouth. “Is that why you were always on the phone to her?”

I nodded, unsure of what exactly to say. I felt surprisingly uneasy. In hindsight I think I was afraid that she would somehow disapprove, much in the same way that my peers did when I was a few years older than her.

“She was nice.” Was her final opinion on the matter, before asking her Dad if there was ice cream for dessert.

However, this was not the last we were to hear of it.

“Amy told her teacher that her auntie liked girls,” my brother informed me a few weeks later.

My initial response, as was his, was to laugh, but this was soon to be replaced with genuine concern. Who else was she repeating this to in school, and what would be the consequences? We all know that kids can be cruel. I didn’t want a situation arising where she would be teased, whether now or in a few years time, when kids had a better understanding (or misunderstanding) of what it was to be gay.

Hearing that her teachers response was one of silence didn’t ease my worries. Couldn’t this silence have been misinterpreted by my niece as disapproval? Shouldn’t her teacher have responded, albeit briefly, in a positive manner upon hearing this? Wasn’t my niece’s decision to inform her teacher of this in fact her way of seeking assurance on the matter? Teachers at that age for children are important role models, authority figures that like parents, instil in children the rights and wrongs of life and behaviour. So was her decision to say nothing wise or irresponsible?

My Mam is 100% cool with me being gay; however when she heard that my niece had been told about my sexuality, and had subsequently informed her teacher, she wasn’t best pleased. She felt that my niece was too young for the word ‘gay’ to have been introduced into her vocabulary. Upon hearing from my brother that this word was never used, and that my niece had simply been told that ‘her Auntie Kris liked girls not boys’ no more and no less, she was still unsure as to whether their decision to tell her was wise.

And so it got me thinking, what is the right age to bring up the whole ‘gay’ thing with kids? Were my niece’s parents right in their decision, or should they have waited another few years, until she could perhaps better comprehend the information being given?

Having considered the matter, I actually think that they were, in fact, right to tell her. Surely if every parent did the same, in a manner in which the information given and the language used was suitable for the child’s age; wouldn’t it seriously decrease the risks of LGBT kids being bullied in schools? After all, kids are not born homophobic. If the whole issue of being gay is introduced as being quite normal from a very young age, isn’t the likelihood of children accepting their peers who turn out to be LGBT in years to come, much greater? Or in fact, themselves?

As for my Mam’s concern that my niece was too young to comprehend this new found information – that her Auntie ‘liked girls’ – I think she was underestimating children and their capacity to understand and absorb information. In fact, as I reluctantly allowed her and her sister (my two-year-old niece), to give me a makeover which involved layers of eye shadow, lip-gloss and nail varnish, she once again revealed her understanding that her Auntie doesn’t like boys.

This occurred when I complimented them on their work on beautifying their Auntie, saying that it had resulted in making her ‘marriage material.’

“You will have to marry a girl though,” my niece pointed out, as if this was the most natural thing in the world.

Perhaps taking it too far, I briefly informed her on our whole marriage situation here in Ireland, before listing off some other countries were marriage between same sex couples was in fact allowed.

“It’s silly you can’t get married here though,” was her response. Couldn’t have said it better myself.

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7 Comments

  • I think you’re right, by not telling them until their old enough to comprehend, the fact it’s been kept from them implies it’s not a normal thing, which is definitely not what children need to believe.

    Mollie said:
  • I have a whole passle of nieces and nephews. Since I’ve been out I’ve never hidden it from them. Some of them are quite young, but as the commenter above points out, if you try and keep things from them, they can get the idea that there is something awry with Uncle Maurice liking boys. I have to admit, my sister’s were great with explaining it to their kids. It was just stated matter of factly with no issue. If my mum had reacted in the same way as yours did, I have to admit I would not be best pleased. To me that would indicate that she is not as 100% as you might think. I know my mum is 90% there, but there are times when her comments bely a discomfort with some aspects. But she would readily acknowledge that those are her issues and not mine. And certainly wouldn’t pass it off as concern for the kids.

    Maurice said:
  • Think it’s important to tell children from young age. It would create better society and less uncomfortable nor homophobia. The positive attitude the easier . Imagine in ten years time, they would think it’s crazy that the homosexuality was illegal till 1993 during the history class!! they wouldn’t think their mums or uncles are sick or abnormal ,just loving human being.

    Jane Magee said:
  • As a mom, I think it is important to get the good information in their heads before the bad gets there. If they hear the bigotry first, that has to be undone and they will be confused about who is right. But if they know their cool auntie likes girls and then hear the stereotypes, they can recognize the wrongness immediately. And if they aren’t told early, before they are exposed to homophobia, then the news comes across as a big deal, when really, it shouldn’t be. And it is not just about an aunt or uncle or any one person. If children grow up comfortable with LGBT people they know, they will be comfortable as adults with LGBT colleagues, employers, neighbours, friends, etc. It’s a huge favour to the next person who comes out to them!

    okitty said:
  • Hey Maurice (plus everyone else who commented – cheers for the feedback!)

    With regard to my Mam’s reaction about the whole ‘niece hearing I was gay thing’, I too was suprised at her response when she found out. But we had a chat about it and she assured me it wasnt that she had an issue about me being gay, she just genuinely felt maybe my niece she was too young to know about anything related to sexuality, and she was also worried my niece would get bullied (shes already had a hard time from kids about other things).

    Shes always been really supportive (thankfully I know not many are as lucky), but the fact I mentioned her reaction in the article (and your opinion on her reaction) helped us to discuss it and both understand each other better, so cheers :)

    Defo think the comments are right, can only be beneficial for kids to know from a young age about all things different.

    Kris said:
  • My missus only the other day told me the same thing about her little cousin. She had started saying ‘Justin Bieber is gay’ without knowing what gay means. She just heard it at school. But her parents refuse to tell her what ‘gay’ means. She’s 4, and now is the age to instill positive connotations with the word and make her see that it’s no biggie. If they’re old enough to recognise straight relationships then they’re old enough to be told about gay ones too. Change starts at home!

    Jen said:
  • Hi
    for what its worth my kids from 9 down to 4 have always been told that some girls like girls and some boys like boys and that they are described as being gay and that its perfectly normal. My son has come home from school telling me that the “stupid” kids in school are using the term gay to bully others… his expression of incredulity was clear when he said” don’t they know its normal and that they are being stupid”

    I reckon that by being open about it from day one he was ready to contradict at least in his own mind the mantra being bandied about in school. Only yesterday my four year old boy wanted to know if he could marry john. His older sister who is six exclaimed “NOOOOO silly you cant marry him he is your cousin but you could marry george instead… ”
    Ok I know she doesnt quite get the whole civil partnership/marriage debate but to her it was conceivable that boys marry boys… if she can retain that openess then I think “Job done”

    nora said:
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