1. Eebs

    I feel sick. The world is messed up. All this shit tells me, is that this society values money more than we value women. Ugh. Ugh. Ugh.

    Great article though. Thanks for writing it. It needs to be highlighted more. It just makes me so angry.

  2. okitty

    Great article. Thank you for making the point so clearly. I wish this judge was put somewhere, anywhere but a courtroom. Totally agree Eebs, money outranks women in this society. Sick but true.

  3. nin88

    there is this belief that perhaps things like this would end if more women were to enter politics. Specifically, law making.
    Laws tend to put women at a disadvantage because they were written to protect members of the said, Boys Club. We need more of us infiltrating that club….Yet, again that’s easier said than done.

  4. @hmmmmm…
    You’re making serious allegations (of a crime) about the victim of a convicted offender. (I’m going to run it by editorial in fact, on the off chance we could be sued for publishing it) And in case you’re wondering, I’ve seen the photos taken of her in the hospital the night of the assault. So say what you want.

    And certainly — this is a lesbian website, and domestic violence exists within all families, so of course women can be aggressors.

    In this case, however, you’re presenting this to derail the conversation.

    The fact is in the case of Mark Jordan and in the case of Graham Griffiths, they were both convicted of assault against women and were not given custodial sentences. This is the point.

    If your buddy has a complaint, he should probably alert the authorities, and you probably shouldn’t prejudice the case by posting the details on websites.

  5. @hmmmmm….
    That the case is over is sort of my point. He has been convicted; she has not.

    My point is that it seems amiss that people convicted of assault and rape (this conversation is not, in fact, about Mark Jordan — he’s just a recent example) should really serve custodial sentences, compared to say, tax cheats, as noted above.

    I’m sorry I didn’t write the post clearly enough to make my point, and that I confused you into thinking that this, somehow, is an appropriate forum for making criminal allegations about a woman who the court agreed had been assaulted.

    What I meant about the case is if he felt he was being abused, that’s a case to take to the police, not to a random website discussing inappropriate sentencing for convicted violent offenders.

  6. Hi all,

    On behalf of the Editorial Team I’ve taken the decision to remove two comments that were posted here earlier, due to legal issues which will need to be addressed pending final decision on whether the comments can remain or must be removed.

    If you have any questions, please contact editorial@gaelick.com

    – click here (Editor)

  7. hmmmmm....

    ::shrugs:: sorry I offended you in my questioning of your chosen example. perhaps they do not hand out custodial sentences in these cases simply because the evidence in a tax cheat case is, by way of the accusation itself, far more cut and dried. taxes are figures upon paper, therefore they can be examined as such. they can be hidden, changed, even destroyed, but all in all, they cant, say, turn into a great grey elephant and leave the room. Assault, however, especially that between partners, is quite a different thing indeed. while one party may well have more significant PHYSICAL injuries, the equally significant mental injuries cannot be seen, and are often discounted. hence the “battered wife” defense here in the states. personally, I would rather see a guilty man go free and pay restitution, tho it be deemed insignificant compared to his crime, then see an innocent man go to jail.

  8. kstew

    I have some friends who make jokes about my own little brand of feminism and my women’s rights rants, but THIS IS WHY. its just upsetting to think that paying a fine is the equivalent of the assault that these women faced :(

  9. Diana Doss

    Dear @hmmmmm

    No one is discounting mental or emotional injuries to any party. However, if a person is being emotionally or mentally abused it is their prerogative to leave the relationship and the abuser. At no time, at all, is it up to them to break their fist on their partners face.

  10. Diana Doss

    And for the record, I do not believe that there is ever a time in which one is not responsible for their own actions (notice the gender neutrality here…). “Fugue state”, intoxicated, drug addled, what have you. Just because some one is not in control of themselves does not mean that they are not responsible for what they have done. (again, notice, gender neutrality…)

  11. Diana Doss

    same rules apply regardless of gender. gender has no bearing on becoming physically abusive with some one.

    Once you strike a person I do not care who or what you are.

  12. Siobhán Schnittger

    Hey there, I’m speaking entirely non hypothetically here, and under my own name, on the record. I request that @hmmmmm…. whatever be barred from this thread, or action be taken for revealing actual, intimate and precise details of the battering and case in an attempt to harass the victim of this story. It is my belief that the person behind this profile is a friend to, or is known to the man convicted and is using this thread as an attempt to intimidate the victim. Not only do I find this personally distasteful, as I’m sure the moderator’s of Gaelick will, but also potentially libellous.

  13. Nora

    The word hypothetical can and should only be used if you are making it up…the details here are very specific and as such are unacceptable. I concur that @hmmmmm has crossed a line and has infringed on the good practice rules of this site that most of us follow. Very suspicious of the motives behind this line of argument.

  14. Hi all,

    I’ve taken the decision to remove several comments that were posted here earlier, for the same reasons as before. (Innuendo, in the form of “hypothetical situations” or otherwise, doesn’t absolve the commenter.)

    Those who want to make potentially libellous statements can assume the liability and take it elsewhere.

    If you have any questions, please contact editorial@gaelick.com

    – click here (Editor)

  15. Nora

    Well done…this is why this site is so popular…it is really well monitored and creates a safe place to give your opinion. Thank you. Nora

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